XrabbitX said:After all it is our perception of the world around us that defines the reality that we live in...
What I really consider the illusions of this world are things like: fame, money, power, recreational drugs, etc. There are a lot of things that people kill each other for, or destroy themselves for, or waste their entire lives striving for, but are not real in any sense whatsoever.
XrabbitX said:
Our one God is God the Father. Christ and Sophia (the Holy Ghost) are either manifestations of him in the physical world (emanations approach), or they are part of Him (trinitarian approach).
abhorson said:@XrabbitX Do you follow Samael Aun Weor or just the gospels, or someone/thing else? If you've never heard of Samael you should check him out, he lived about 30 years ago and "Christified his Will".
BetterOffHere said:Wow...
OP subcribes to an illusionary belief system and spouts about how our world is defined by illusory control factors...
we're living a life of illusion as joe walsh once sang about...
and yet...the OP can see past this illusion that the rest of us can't...
lucky guy !!!...or
just another mouse in the maze repeating the conditioning process without any real thought ?
BetterOffHere said:
and yet...the OP can see past this illusion that the rest of us can't...
lucky guy !!!
XrabbitX said:A good illustration of this kind of process is an old Taoist proverb that goes something like: "When you call something beautiful, something else in the world immediately becomes ugly without you even knowing it."
XrabbitX said:God is something we believe shows the believer the difference between what is real and what is illusion, thus freeing us
XrabbitX said:the archons (whether they be literal or metaphorical).
So yes, I believe that Gnostics have spiritual knowledge that an atheist or agnostic etc, would not possess.

ehhrrwal said:@XrabbitX Were you born into gnostic Christianity, or Christianity in general? I checked out a Gnostic service on Easter one time, although it was difficult to discern much of a difference. Seemed like a very traditional mass to me, though my knowledge and understanding of the Gnostics was and is minimal. Basically I came away thinking that the only way I would learn anything about it was from personal research rather than participation, at that particular church anyways. So I am wondering whether your knowledge comes from a personal interested and motivated research or if you were brought up in some kind of Gnostic community?

orgone said:The clip has been taken off of YouTube for copyright reasons but here is a written synopsis and a low quality version of the full film on google video (higher quality vimeo), the scene is @ ≈01:25:30
BetterOffHere said:quote the xrabbitx...
A good illustration of this kind of process is an old Taoist proverb that goes something like: "When you call something beautiful, something else in the world immediately becomes ugly without you even knowing it."
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the act of finding beauty causes something else to become ugly ?
is that what it is saying ? Is it implying that the other thing wasn't already ugly...
Seems a tad bit selfish or self centered...and gives power to the individual, which has just made a cognitive decsion based from an operating system,that is constantly searching to find symetry...flaws,deformaties...etc
so i disagree with that proverb...and think it is flawed !!!
does that mean somewhere else another proverb, hidden somewhere became available to be recognised as unflawed ?
is that how the proverb works ?
a finding of a flaw cause something else to become flawless...
i don't know....seems a lil sketchie...to me
orgone said:The clip has been taken off of YouTube for copyright reasons but here is a written synopsis and a low quality version of the full film on google video (higher quality vimeo), the scene is @ ≈01:25:30
josephkiddy said:@xrabbitx you said that you believe in good and evil I was wondering if you meant that in a sense of certain actions are inherently good or evil or did you mean it in more of an intentions can be good or evil sense and if so whats the line on trying to do something good but in the end doing harm

josephkiddy said:Thats a pretty good explanation I would say it just raises one more question though with the wolf analogy are you saying that everyone should be vegetarian or am I just asking a dumb question
Paul wrote: "All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify."
josephkiddy said:Paul wrote: "All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify."
Really enjoyed this quote I will remember this
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