good luck with that. what type of shrooms are they?

Ummm take less, seriously. There is no rush. They are rewarding at many levels. You can always go for "Heroic" doses later if you still wish. Terrence was not talking to "virgins" in his workshops. Also just fyi, his favorite mushroom (Psilocibe Cubensis) was on the weaker side of the spectrum compared to many mushrooms, now they are one of the most common sold since they are easy as heck to grow, but if you got one of the big boy strains and ate 5grams you are in for it. Pretty much all mushrooms you would ever get from a dealer are psilocybin mushrooms (amanita's are not common) but there is a huge variety of them. Educating yourself might be a good thing to do!

Seriously take less. I've already ranted about this before on this very forum. It's bad for the community to use these substances lightly.

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I'm going to be going over to the dealer's house, and there's going to be about 5 people trying shrooms that day. I'm going to save them for later though, in my own room for a weekend my family is gone out.

EDIT: It's not that I don't trust the guy, it's always just weird buying any substance from a dealer.

Well see the thing is, I know the LD-50 rate is immensely larger than the effective dose, and the trip is 8-10 hours. So I'm not nervous about the dosage as much as the actual trip.

My intentions are to learn more about myself, maybe shed some light into my desires or wishes I knew were there, but I was subconsciously afraid to admit.

And yes, I've written down a bunch of stuff to say on a piece of paper:

"What is my purpose in life"
"I'm in your hands, show me"

I'm going to put up a thread detailing my experience from head to toe.

Go for the 5 grams man! Ride that new grace you get. I didn't have any difficulties until 10 or 15 trips in. A lot of people recommend and take lower doses. A lot of my friends never go above a gram. It's always "just a light trip this time." But it's in those light trips that you can overthink what's happening and freak. If you're going to do it, do it.

If you really want to go deep, it's about concentration and serenity. Keep your mind calm, and go deeper and deeper. If you have experience meditating, go with that. The idea is to still your mind and let it do it's thing. If you find your mind wandering, bring it back to what the mushrooms are doing. Focus on that, lay (or sit) still. I find that the more calm I can bring, the more detached I can become, the more I can push through the center and deeper into the thing.

BeefLeg said:

Go for the 5 grams man! Ride that new grace you get. I didn't have any difficulties until 10 or 15 trips in. A lot of people recommend and take lower doses. A lot of my friends never go above a gram. It's always "just a light trip this time." But it's in those light trips that you can overthink what's happening and freak. If you're going to do it, do it.

If you really want to go deep, it's about concentration and serenity. Keep your mind calm, and go deeper and deeper. If you have experience meditating, go with that. The idea is to still your mind and let it do it's thing. If you find your mind wandering, bring it back to what the mushrooms are doing. Focus on that, lay (or sit) still. I find that the more calm I can bring, the more detached I can become, the more I can push through the center and deeper into the thing.

Sweet, I'll definitely try meditating. Should I put on some shpongle or something? Or just no music?

If you haven't heard this yet, take a listen since you are so stuck on the TM 5g thing...

http://www.matrixmasters.net/salon/?p=595

I like grazing on mushrooms, take a good bit to start, come back and eat more an hour or two later, again a bit later. Do something fun, go out. I tripped at home with some people, which was great, but I looking back I hated that house and it was late so I felt trapped. There were sketchy people at one point and that derailed me.

Then this other time I was at a recording session all day, took my first dose at 9 or 10 and kept doing it throughout the day. It was a lot more fun that way to be away from my familiar environment and doing something I like, with some downtime to take a walk or chat with somebody or whatever. So yeah, daytime, somewhere comfortable, somewhere extraordinary. I dunno about you but my room smells terrible so I'd hate to trip in there.

You can hear what a high bass player sounds like, if you want:
http://soundcloud.com/andynshort/baby-wants-brains

6is9 said:

Use caution and more respect, probably wise to have someone with you as well - whether they are tripping with you or not. Would you eat 2 breath strips of THC after hearing about them from the podcast's or maybe start off on the lighter side? I would never recommend more than 1 or 2 grams for a first trip, especially if you are planning on being alone (which I wouldn't recommend either) and you don't know the strain or strength of what you are taking. It ain't like smoking the pot... LSD is 8-12 hours. I've never heard of psilocybin or psilocin lasting more than 4-6hrs unless one munches more on the way down. It is a big world in there and there is plenty of time to explore. No need to flatten yourself the first time... Just my two cents

Oh wow, I just realized this is the poster who just recently smoked pot for the first time and then proceeded to give advice to people immediately on how to smoke weed. He also made a post to someone trying to get off pain pills with simply "DMT/Mushrooms" from apparently no point of reference.

http://duncantrussell.com/forum/discussion/2554/cannabis-my-first-trip-ever-trip-report#Item_41

I salute your curiosity, but why are you in such a rush? Do yourself a favor and get your feet wet a little bit. There are a a bunch of us here that have been around the block with these substances for longer than you have been alive. You can have FULLY MIND FUCK AMAZING trip on mushrooms at 1/2 the dose you want to take. The ability to do a "heroic" dose will still exist in the future. Each experience is unqiue and somewhat unpredictable even if you took the same dosage ever time. I'm starting to wish that talk op posted didn't exist in some sense and this is from someone who has listened to 100's of hours of TM talks!

Weed is a very different substance, it is not remotely similar chemically and experientially it is also way different.

If you chose to ignore all the advice then at least make sure you have someone around to help you out and are in a safe space where you will have no distractions.

Good luck, hope you have an interesting/fruitful experience.

@Malaclypse I do agree with you he shouldn't be giving advice with no experience or frame of reference, but I will actually disagree that weed is totally dissimilar to a mushroom trip.

While I will give you they are not the same, you can get a lot of the introspective feelings on marijuana that you would from a mushroom trip.

OK so I'm getting a vibe that I'm trying to build a house on an uneven foundation if I take 5 grams? My fear with taking just 3 grams is that I won't be fully in this other dimension, but at a crossroads where I can sort of glimpse at myself with different eyes, but not fully examine myself.

That's primarily why I'd be taking 5.

he's been warned a million different ways. taking 5 wont kill him, and it will be more interesting.

Ghost_Hit said:

he's been warned a million different ways. taking 5 wont kill him, and it will be more interesting.

Perhaps we should go the opposite route. He should be fine taking 1000mcgs of LSD then 20 minutes in eat the 5 grams of Mushrooms and then 1 hour or so into that someone prepare a bag of 100mg of Vaped dmt and make him smoke that. NO THAT IS HOW TO TRIP!

Seriously man, you should take the advice that is being given here. There is no need to go plunging head first into the abyss. Feel it out a bit. For your first time I would recommend not to do them alone. Have some good friends around, go out and experience nature, and most importantly don't over think it. Go stare up at the clouds, they're awesome. The best thing you can do is get a feel of the effects before you go exploring the dark recesses of your own mind. I can only speak from my own experiences but trust me, you do NOT want to find yourself in over your head. That being said, don't let me or anyone else deter you from doing what you feel must be done.

I think people worry that the mushrooms will make them lose control. To some degree its true, but you will always have your decision making ability intact, though you may not be sure who 'you' are. Listen man, the way mushrooms work is that most people start at an eigth or therabouts and then always do a little less over time to keep it at bay because theyre afraid of surrendering to the trip. If you want to go deep, do it! Ive tripped maybe 100 times and never been in a place where I do something stupid. Just turn your phone off, put out some nice refreshing trip books and maybe some crayons/paper and some drinks. I recommend doing it at night and being sure no one will disturb you. Dont let other peoples fears of the thing turn you off. Ive done trips ranging from 1 gram to 13 grams, and I have had plenty of difficult experiences, but most were from lower doses. Terence Mckenna talks about the same thing. If you want the full "psychedelic" effect, do at least 4 grams. 5 is fine.

More advice: write on your arm with a sharpee: "its OK, youre just tripping!"
Have yr music all queued up so you dont have to change tracks. The less lyrics in your music the better, they can spin you into someone elses trip.
Have orange juice or some delicious drink ready
Do them at least two hours after eating. Dont eat them on food, that weakens the trip.
Dont do it while sleepy or stressed.
Do it after having a day off, and with a day off the next day. That way you dont still have that days stresses lingering, and you dont wphave to worry about getting up early or something.

Ive never used sitters, and when tripping with others I tend to have worse trips because a part of my energy is directed outwards: Im thinking about what to say to them, or how ridiculous Im acting etc... If you want to go deep, forget what others are saying, do it alone.

There is nothing to fear but fear itself. So long as youre somewhere safe, theres nothing tofear! First timers almost never have difficulties be cause their minds dont know how to resist. Just let the thing happen, it is a positive experience. The first timers that do have problems are usually out in the world or with people. Go to a silent space, prepare well, and dive deep while you still have the motivation! Dont expect anything. Dont try to interpret it. Just let it happen. Its the most beautiful experience a person can have, and I think if your mind isnt resisting, its a chance to commune with the divine.

PS - get the book "be here now" and have it on hand, its pulled me back from some difficult situations. Dont be afraid to sing or dance, those things can bring your mood up.

Pps - you can turn the lights off after a while, but i recommend low light and background music, you can go just as deep as in silent darkness in my experience

@BeefLeg that is excellent advice.

I didn't read all the other posts but felt the need to say something asap!!!!! umm do not take 5 grams! For one you don't know the potency and probably don't know the specific strain either...start out with like 2.5 and test it out.. you will have a mellow happy experience and you will be more relaxed the next time you get them from the same guy. Also to the post above me those weights are refferring to fresh mushrooms not dried out mushies

BeefLeg has great advice. I think if he has researched enough to be asking for advice and has found Mckenna he'll be just fine. My first experience I was not so fortunate. The only advice I received was to drink orange juice, in retrospect, I laugh at my past. @Himanshu I'll be waiting on your trip report =)

As far as music shpongle is great, but a personal shaman is even better!

@Beefleg Would you consider this point of view a belief? for me I don't like binding myself to beliefs because it hinders my ability to keep an open mind.

Have some weed packed. Just in case ;)

Himanshu said:

Eat 3 grams with friends
Save the other 5 for a time when I'm alone.

I'll have some weed in a bowl ready to go.

This! 3 grams with trusted friends is a great way to start. I'm glad I started small and worked my way up to 5+ grams.

@himanshu I want to start by saying I really do like your new plan. I started with three as well and it was a great introduction. I do want to say, also, to take all of this advice you are getting with a grain of salt. Remember that this experience is very personal and everyone's interpretation is different. My advice, go with what you feel. While it is everyones intention to help you, it's like trying to explain the moon to someone who has never seen it. In my opinion, If you approach with positive feelings and with the intent to learn more about yourself and your surroundings, then you have nothing to worry about. Bring back as much as you can, and tell us about it!

This thread needs an update from @Himanshu.